Comments on: XML jest święty http://www.szafranek.net/blog/2004/10/28/xml_jest_swiety/ The homepage of Krzysztof Szafranek, a guy who makes websites Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:31:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kheru http://www.szafranek.net/blog/2004/10/28/xml_jest_swiety/#comment-1798 kheru Mon, 08 Nov 2004 08:31:40 +0000 http://szafranek/blog/2004/10/28/xml-jest-swiety/#comment-1798 <p>Well :) i could use some short example about describing something with XML (and not storing anything)</p> <p>The funny thing is that when i read more about XML(for me it's useless thing for now), i thing it's some kind of funn and i like it more and more, but despite that i don't know where to use it since there is php and mysql.</p> <p>As to your opinion about that XML is about describing data php can do the same.</p> <p>But on the other hand if XML is unuseless thing why Microsoft want's it so much :) </p> Well :) i could use some short example about describing something with XML (and not storing anything)

The funny thing is that when i read more about XML(for me it’s useless thing for now), i thing it’s some kind of funn and i like it more and more, but despite that i don’t know where to use it since there is php and mysql.

As to your opinion about that XML is about describing data php can do the same.

But on the other hand if XML is unuseless thing why Microsoft want’s it so much :)

]]> By: Szafranek http://www.szafranek.net/blog/2004/10/28/xml_jest_swiety/#comment-1797 Szafranek Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:48:47 +0000 http://szafranek/blog/2004/10/28/xml-jest-swiety/#comment-1797 <p>Hi Kheru, it's been a while :).</p> <p>I don't think if it is right to compare XML and a relational database, since they have different purposes. XML is about describing data, while database is about storing it.</p> <p>So I use the latter to store and retrive ie. articles on this site, but I can't use it to describe user interface - but XML can do that job.</p> <p>Talking about Flex -- it's not public, but check your mail :). </p> Hi Kheru, it’s been a while :).

I don’t think if it is right to compare XML and a relational database, since they have different purposes. XML is about describing data, while database is about storing it.

So I use the latter to store and retrive ie. articles on this site, but I can’t use it to describe user interface – but XML can do that job.

Talking about Flex — it’s not public, but check your mail :).

]]> By: Kheru http://www.szafranek.net/blog/2004/10/28/xml_jest_swiety/#comment-1796 Kheru Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:34:28 +0000 http://szafranek/blog/2004/10/28/xml-jest-swiety/#comment-1796 <p>Hello i see you have a nice conversation. (if i make code/language errors, i'm sorry) But i have one basic question. If XML is all about storing some information in some way, do we need it with MySQL+PhP out there? I can't think out of any purposes that XML will fit and MySQL'll not.</p> <p>Szak could you give me a copy of FLEX? Ok take care Szafranek and Zef Hemel. </p> Hello i see you have a nice conversation. (if i make code/language errors, i’m sorry)
But i have one basic question.
If XML is all about storing some information in some way, do we need it with MySQL+PhP out there? I can’t think out of any purposes that XML will fit and MySQL’ll not.

Szak could you give me a copy of FLEX?
Ok take care Szafranek and Zef Hemel.

]]> By: Zef Hemel http://www.szafranek.net/blog/2004/10/28/xml_jest_swiety/#comment-1795 Zef Hemel Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:39:08 +0000 http://szafranek/blog/2004/10/28/xml-jest-swiety/#comment-1795 <p>OK, good luck :) </p> OK, good luck :)

]]> By: Szafranek http://www.szafranek.net/blog/2004/10/28/xml_jest_swiety/#comment-1794 Szafranek Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:27:39 +0000 http://szafranek/blog/2004/10/28/xml-jest-swiety/#comment-1794 <p>My script strips too long URLs, so layout is harder to break. Probably there's some issue with the script.</p> <p>There are some good points in your article. But I didn't choose XML to experiment with not because it's human readable or "easy to type with texteditor" (it's not). The Web proved that markup language works well as a tool to describe GUIs. I just want to see how it's going to work with some more standard interfaces (I mean: more destkop-like and less webpage-like).</p> <p>Currently I'm digging into Mozilla's XUL and it seems quite impresive to me. I think that now, when our destkop machines are fast enough to interpret and display XML GUIs, Mozilla has proved that it's not bad at all to create desktop application's interefaces in XML. And I don't think that MS decided to create XAML just because of marketing department (maybe I'm wrong in that point ;) ).</p> <p>Thesis is a safe place to play with such technologies and to see by myself if they really work well. Better place than some commercial project.</p> <p>Of course there's a "cool factor" too. We both may know, that XML is not much more than a buzzword. But the truth is that in my country (situation elsewhere is probably similar) software companies simply require programmers to know how to work with XML. So do I learn. </p> My script strips too long URLs, so layout is harder to break. Probably there’s some issue with the script.

There are some good points in your article. But I didn’t choose XML to experiment with not because it’s human readable or “easy to type with texteditor” (it’s not). The Web proved that markup language works well as a tool to describe GUIs. I just want to see how it’s going to work with some more standard interfaces (I mean: more destkop-like and less webpage-like).

Currently I’m digging into Mozilla’s XUL and it seems quite impresive to me. I think that now, when our destkop machines are fast enough to interpret and display XML GUIs, Mozilla has proved that it’s not bad at all to create desktop application’s interefaces in XML. And I don’t think that MS decided to create XAML just because of marketing department (maybe I’m wrong in that point ;) ).

Thesis is a safe place to play with such technologies and to see by myself if they really work well. Better place than some commercial project.

Of course there’s a “cool factor” too. We both may know, that XML is not much more than a buzzword. But the truth is that in my country (situation elsewhere is probably similar) software companies simply require programmers to know how to work with XML. So do I learn.

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